When The New York Times Magazine dropped its list of the “30 Greatest Living American Songwriters,” one name glimmered brighter than the rest — Mariah Carey.

A rightful placement for the elusive chanteuse, the architect of modern pop‑R&B melody, and the woman who has written more No. 1 hits than any other American songwriter.
That’s right. You heard that correctly. ANY.
Mariah Carey lets the pen take center stage at The New York Times
The voice is legendary, but the songwriting receipts are just as loud — Mariah’s NYT moment puts the focus back where Lambily always knew it belonged: the pen, the melody, and the emotional architecture.
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For the feature, journalist Danyel Smith met with Mariah in INYIM Media’s own neighboring Los Angeles stomping grounds, where MC opened up about the craft, the grind, and the emotional architecture behind her catalog.
And thanks to her new Popcast interview, we get even more of the story — straight from Mariah herself.
On Knowing When a Song Is Special
Mariah remembers the exact moment she knew “Fantasy” was bigger than big:
She was driving around in her car, playing the track on repeat, long before the remix dropped. She said she couldn’t even describe how much she loved it — and that the remix remains one of her favorite things she’s ever done.
And when she performed it at Madison Square Garden with O.D.B., she remembers him looking so happy, calling it a real moment for both of them.
On Growing Up With Music — and Knowing She Was Meant for This
Mariah talks about being a kid who struggled in school but believed in her heart she was going to be a singer.
Her mother told her: “Don’t say if I make it — say when I make it.”
She recalls being four or five, listening to her mother rehearse, and finishing a line her mother had stopped on. That’s when her mom said, “Okay, she’s got an ear.”
Poetry came first. Then melodies. Then songs.
On Learning to Create — and the Magic of Collaboration
Mariah describes sitting in with her mother’s musician friends — guitarists, bassists, jazz players — and learning what creating something felt like.
She talks about:
- Scatting as a kid
- Writing in journals
- Voice notes
- Channeling ideas rather than over‑engineering them
- Occasionally using a thesaurus (“but I lost it somewhere”)
She even reveals that “All I Want for Christmas Is You” started with her at the piano — despite not considering herself a piano player.



And when it comes to collaborators?
She lights up talking about:
- Jermaine Dupri — “two kids in a sandbox,” writing Always Be My Baby and We Belong Together
- Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis — calling the experience a dream
- Anderson .Paak — “eclectic, artsy, fun”
On the Deep Cuts That Mean the Most
Mariah opens up about the songs that are about her, even when people don’t realize it:
- “Pedals”
- “Close My Eyes” — which took her four years to write
- “Cry”
She even quotes one of her favorite lyrics from “Close My Eyes”:
“I was a wayward child with the weight of the world that I held deep inside.”
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On Being Undercredited — and Finally Owning Her Title
Mariah says she’s spent years feeling shut out by institutions like the Grammys and undercredited as a songwriter.
She’s written her own songs since she was “we’ll call it 20,” produced her own records, and shaped entire eras — yet people still overlook the pen behind the voice.
But in the interview, she finally lets herself say it:
“I like writing songs and I’m good at it.”
A simple sentence. A long‑overdue acknowledgment.
And now, with The New York Times Magazine placing her among the greatest living American songwriters, the industry is finally catching up to what fans have always known.
A moment of recognition that simply aligns with reality:
Mariah Carey is one of the greatest living American songwriters.







