Nicole Byer and TS Madison Were Never Going to Behave

Well, you already know this pairing was never going to come with inside voices. Nicole Byer pulls up to Outlaws with TS Madison for an episode officially and magnificently titled “Slurp Slurp, Gobble Gobble.”
But underneath all the cackling, filth and professional foolishness is one of those conversations that keeps accidentally getting real. Byer and Madison move from career survival and representation to disastrous makeup stories, romance, Drag Race dreams and exactly what they would ban if somebody ever made the mistake of handing them legislative power.
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SLURP SLURP, GOBBLE GOBBLE
Nicole Byer plus TS Madison gives us career tea, makeup horror stories, romance and two extremely specific additions to the national ban list.
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Outlaws gives Madison a weekly space to sit with entertainers, cultural figures and fellow professional truth-tellers without sanding the conversation down into neat little promo-tour answers. Nicole is an especially natural fit: she is funny enough to turn almost any indignity into material, while still knowing exactly when the joke is covering something that really was not okay.
Nicole Byer and TS Madison Swap Makeup Horror Stories
One of the episode’s strongest stretches starts with Byer remembering an early overseas commercial job that paid her $5,000 — enormous money to her at the time — but came with a parade of racialized nonsense. She recalls being told during the audition to act “blacker,” then arriving on set to more of the same from a director who wanted her to perform his idea of how Black people supposedly talked.
The indignities kept stacking. Byer says the production did not have makeup shades that properly worked for her skin, leaving her to handle much of her own face. She eventually turned the experience into her sketch “Be Blacker,” using comedy to expose exactly how absurd those instructions were.
Madison immediately has a story of her own. She recalls showing up for Zola and feeling that the makeup department was not prepared to give her character the glamour she needed. That launches both women into a wider discussion about how often Black performers are expected to arrive on professional sets only to discover that hair and makeup teams cannot properly match darker skin tones or work with Black hair.
Byer says similar experiences pushed her to learn how to do her own makeup after moving to Los Angeles. She remembers one job where her face and neck did not match and a pale lipstick left her knowing something was wrong — only to have a roommate confirm it the second she walked through the door.
These days, Nicole says she has a makeup artist she loves, Jen, whom she met through RuPaul’s Drag Race. Madison, meanwhile, makes it very clear that she now treats a proper glam team as part of the job. Their larger point lands without much decorating: if productions hire people of color, the crew needs to know how to work with people of color.
Nicole Byer Found Love — and She Sounds Genuinely Smitten
Then Madison does what Madison does and gets nosy.
Asked whether she is dating, Nicole reveals that she met a man on Hinge a little over two years ago. Their first date apparently ended with enough mutual awkwardness that Byer drove home wondering whether he even liked her. He did.
What followed sounds very different from the dating war stories that fueled so much of Why Won’t You Date Me?. Nicole describes him as sweet, kind and someone who takes care of her in a way she had not experienced before. Then comes the line Madison was not expecting: Nicole says she loves him. A lot.
Byer also says she is “so happy” and admits she once genuinely did not think this kind of relationship was going to happen for her. Not because she believed being plus-size made her undesirable — she shuts that idea down quickly — but because she had built a life where she did not need a man to finance, rescue or validate her.
She talks about previous dates where men seemed threatened by her success, sometimes pretending not to know who she was while mysteriously knowing details about her career. With her current partner, the energy appears to be the opposite: practical, affectionate and refreshingly uncompetitive. For somebody whose longest-running podcast title was essentially one giant dating question, that is one very cute plot development.
Ban It: Nicole Byer Has Notes for Concertgoers — and AI
The episode eventually reaches Madison’s “Ban It” segment, where guests get imaginary power to remove whatever is currently irritating them from society.
Nicole arrives prepared with two.
First up: people who sit through concerts without dancing, moving or appearing remotely pleased to have left their homes. Her argument is basically that you paid for the ticket, got dressed and entered the building — now participate. Wear something fun. Feel the music. Give us a head bop. Anything.
Her second proposed ban? AI-generated cute-animal videos that are not clearly labeled as AI. Byer specifically complains about getting emotionally invested in adorable chicken clips only to learn from the comments that the chickens never existed. Her compromise is almost diplomatic: if you insist on making fake chickens, at least tell her they are fake before she develops feelings.
So yes, by the end of the hour we have tackled racism on commercial sets, Black hair and makeup representation, career longevity, finding unexpected love, concert etiquette and fraudulent poultry.
Slurp slurp, gobble gobble indeed.



The whole conversation is worth the ride — from career survival to bad glam, unexpectedly good love and fake chickens ruining Nicole’s day.
Watch Nicole Byer on Outlaws with TS Madison: Slurp Slurp, Gobble Gobble
Nicole Byer joins TS Madison for a wide-ranging conversation about career, representation, makeup on set, dating, finding love and the show’s “Ban It” segment.
Source: Outlaws with TS Madison.




